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- From: larrymb@gramercy.ios.com (Pacarana)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: Future Amigas
- Date: 8 Apr 1996 18:18:49 GMT
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- >In my eyes the Amiga chipset in 1985 was a miracle. Miracles don't
- >happen very often, and you cannot just give a command, and bang, they
- >happen. *If* you can spend half a billion dollars like Sony, then it
- >becomes a different story, of course. AT doesn't have so much money
- >to spend.
- It wasn't a miracle. The same guy did it with the Atari 8bits not long
- before, and the VCS a bit before that. It was just a brilliant man, giving
- free reign to do his stuff. He didn't do things in a standard way or
- follow some rigid guidelines taught in school. Some of the other guys in the
- team later made the Lynx and then the 3D0 and then the M2 and are now working
- on post M2 (M3?). CBM could have had a lot more but they let the design team
- get away.
- The Amiga was THE computer known for doing that sort of stuff. Kill that,
- and you've killed the Amiga. If AT can't do it, if they don't have the
- innovative ideas or won't at least try to make some deal with some other chip
- maker to allow them to add some of the special patented Amiga features into
- their chipsets then what was the point of AT buying the Amiga? Why not have
- let someone else get it at the auction? Why is Cirrus making deals with some
- of the former Amiga designers at 3D0 and not AT? What happened to HPPA+Hombre
- and then the promise of other Amiga custom chipsets? Hopefully you are making
- some sort of a deal with the fastest planned 3D clone chipset makers or 3D0 or
- someone to add in a few Amiga features and make a new sort of Amiga chipset.
- If it turns out that you aren't and plan to just tell PPC "Amiga" buyers
- to go out and buy any old PCI compatible card, that just won't cut it.
- Hopefully this is not what is planned, but if so, then why should I buy a
- computer from AT if it ends up having identical hardware to any old PPC clone
- and runs on the same mess of 10 million different types of PC clone gfx cards?
- Will PPC soon beat out the Intel CPUs for mainstream and will AT's PPC be
- cheaper than other brands in the US? Are the plans even finalized yet?
- After the huge dealys caused by CBM and then the auction, AT should have
- had everything thought out by the day of the auction. By now it is too
- late to start a new chipset if the PPC Amiga is to be released in early
- 97. Even a deal with some other manufacturer to have one of their chipsets
- somewhat Amigatized probably couldn't fit into the announced PPC timescale
- anymore, but if this had been started right away it could have come close.
- Maybe AT doesn't have the resources, creativity and know- how to make the
- next revolutionary computer or to even join forces with someone else to
- attempt it jointly, but so what. What does that leave us with? Perhaps a
- legitimate excuse, but it won't make the PPC Amiga a real Amiga. If Porsche
- failed and then somehow Yugo bought the name and started selling some little
- 4-cylinder tin can as the Porsche 911 would that really be a Porsche 911?
- No it wouldn't. Yes, what they made was the best that they could, but that
- does little for the Porsche lover.
- Also, the OS has been updated over the years. 3.0 was fine, and yet everyone
- jumped ship. If you make the OS the sole selling point, even as good as it,
- I'd have to say that you'll need a LOT of luck. The big productivty software
- companies don't even notice the AmigaOS market it is so small and game makers
- won't have any insentive to make games for the Amiga. In the past, even
- when the market was falling, many still wrote Amiga games simply because the
- hardware fascinated them. If go to the same hardware, coupled with a less than
- Intel standard CPU and an unknown OS what will be the attraction? If they stay
- away from the Amiga PPC they can program the same gfx chips only coupled with
- a system that has a huge market. The "Amiga" PPC might be a bit better because
- of the OS, but I don't know that that alone will do. Perhaps enough
- companies will be fearful of a 100% takeover by Microsoft and come to aid the
- AmigaOS, but it's a risky gamble. Even if it works, the Amiga won't have
- anything to do with what it was originally about anyway. The Amiga would be
- dead anyway. We would still be better off, thanks to AmigaOS running computers
- in existence, but it would still be very sad. Also, what if Microsoft really
- mnages to polish things up when they finally free Windows from all the old MS-
- DOS, 16bit and old compatability roots?
- Maybe AT has very good answers for all of these questions. Maybe by all
- "standard parts" you mean something a little better than just plugging in
- any old mish-mash variety of PC clone gfx/audio cards into it (hopefully
- to the point of at least some Amigatized customising of some third party
- companies cards and just picking one standard completely off the shelf
- piece; hopefully the audio will be produced by a DSP that programmers are
- allowed to program and not just some DMA channels or a DSP with a few fixed
- OS playback routines). Hopefully something will be released to clear up the
- details soon.
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